Standard Notes is a lot like Simplenote. So you get the full feature se… If the text file is edited out of sync with the log, the next time the file is opened inside scratchpad, it simply records a diff between the new state and the expected state from the log. Standard Notes is an elegant, open-source note taking application. The ones that do use paper as long-term storage have a separate set of notes just for that, and transcribe from short-term to long-term anyway, at which point the other liabilities of paper come into play. [3] Moving subfolders of notes in the app makes the notes completely disappear. Thanks for the kind reply. There's even a built-in plugin to automatically commit to git periodically (useful for standalone notebooks, since you don't really want to be opening git manually). Paper notepads and daily calendars are very popular on Kickstarter. Now I'm using Google Docs and I'm fairly happy. Learn more. For those wanting a little more power and flexibility, we created Extended, which unlocks powerful editors, themes, and automated backups. (this made me smile; I worked at NRAO for ten years.). Nonetheless there is really good potential in the software and I encourage getting a paid subscription to support its development. Edit: I should really set up redirects for those. We did this as a way to push out changes quicker since we were still making major improvements often. I also really appreciate the simplicity and minimalism of the program even though it is becoming more and more clear during the regular use that is not a design choice made for usability but more to keep the software easy to maintain for the devs. Your comment isnt helpful for people looking for a digital solution. http://www.acuriousmix.com/2014/09/03/designing-a-personal-k... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8270759. Flatpak using individual repositories which I prefer. At this point I find it most useful to type up the "cooked" knowledge into vimwiki at various points. It would be nice (and I'm looking for somewhere to move all my Flickr photos), but it massively increases the resources required at the back end. I'm a member of the Electron maintainers group and fully realize that this is partly on us for not educating better. I use the Workflow app on iOS, and I have a feeling it would be relatively trivial to write a workflow that loops through all your notes and writes them all to text files in Dropbox or something else like that. - self hosted front end with a simple management interface for organising photos into albums, uploading, setting permissions Over the years I've tried HTML, DOC, WRI (Word pad), but find TXT is the best for longevity. [–]bitario[] 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago* (2 children), Hey, thanks for the review :) Glad you give it a thorough go. So if the website goes down, I've still lost my data unless I back it up in advance. Interesting! I like this trend of back to basics in computing (even if it is running in a web browser on my desktop), its goals are nice. I use Dynalist for my notes. In fact, we might even quickly become more bloated than Evernote. Notes are supposed to be brief records to _aid memory_, not critically important documents. Simplenote is now available for iOS, Android, Mac, and the web. This is part of what Standard Notes addresses. Thanks for sharing, I enjoy reading your code. Or it gets wet, or when I forget it, and I sure as Schmidt won't be able to read them in 50 years, because the only thing I have that is that old is my physical body. I think such a non-linear problem can be solved with different note taking methods as "short, medium, and long-term storage". I think the note history extension should be installed by default or at least there is the need of some kind of reliability system to avoid accidentally losing data in the notes (an edit button might be useful as well even though it wouldn't have helped in my case). I'm also yet to find the perfect photos app. And I'm now taking the 100 year outlook. Speaking personally, I completely rely upon PDFs and images and things accompanying my notes because of the nature of the work I do (I have about 4,700 pages of research and almost a gigabyte of imagery all tied together in a Scrivener project for a single piece of work, for example), and the frozen feature set so proudly advertised smacks of "people need to take notes exactly the way I do," which is an immediate turn-off for me. I think some history helps: the paid version of Standard Notes came several months after the core version was released. In the HN crowd, I wonder how many notes still start off on paper, but are then transcribed into digital. And Quiver has far more functionality. Zim is great. You can link between notes. http://brettterpstra.com/2015/09/14/an-nvalt-and-more-status... https://github.com/viddo/atom-textual-velocity. I haven't had much luck with the bullet journal system or similar because it's just hard to keep those indices up to date. edit:nvalt is open source. True in some measure of any product in any stage of development. What is a note? I use flat files in markdown since 2010 with Sublime Text with extensions: MarkdownEditing, Table Editor, All power of Sublime Text, Super fast full text search, Full index of all header sections in all files trough Cmd+Shift+R, Full index of all file names trough Cmd+P, Language | files | blank | comment | code. Depends on your definition of a "note" I guess. It's a good defense against CDNs turning malicious. Evernote clipper (or "save this page as a note") is the only thing keeping me on that platform. I use pen and paper all the time but only for ephemera. In the end the software experience feels more broken than simple. 3. >Depends on your definition of a "note" I guess. Related, here's a post by the author [1] about Evernote which sheds light on why he went about making this. Our revenue source comes exclusively from our customers, and not from advertisers or venture capitalists. "Camlistore (Content-Addressable Multi-Layer Indexed Storage) is under active development. James Altucher uses a waiter's pad. My needs for searching through my notes isn't 'yada yada'. Learn more. The preferred way to deploy it via GCE or Scaleway will use the latest dockerized version. Love Quiver but I really need an iOS client! I think the KISS principle applies here. The developers also actively engage with the community over at reddit.com/r/bearapp. Maybe I (or somebody else) can write an importer for Standard Notes to make it easy to switch from Apple Notes? I was trying the advanced editor on a existing note with some sensitive information (my bad, I know). However Evernote is probably the most common--being able to easily copy-paste plots and images seems to ease a big pain point. I'm just getting started with Electron, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but how is that different from the updates endpoint getting compromised (for apps with auto update enabled)? Go ahead, downvote away. The site is made by Ola and Markus in Sweden, with a lot of help from our friends and colleagues in Italy, Finland, USA, Colombia, Philippines, France and contributors from all over the world. I used to work for AWS Support, I'm not affiliated any more, but there is a huge difference in response times, also the chat and phone call options are much faster, and you can really ask about anything not just specific problems (architecture guidance, best practices). Simplenote. For portable encryption you can use 7-Zip with encrypted archives, and as a bonus: 7-Zip's archive manager lets you edit text files in-place (well, it does extract and recompress them when you're done, but the UX is such you don't need to mess around with file management yourself). >> I want to be able to read it fifty years from now ... > I've read Altucher's words on using a waiter's pad and he says the same thing -- it's for ephemera. Standard Notes (todo) Notebooks. Seriously, .deb or .rpm is okay, but what users will really want is a proper apt/rpm repository, which is for sure more effort. Of course Workflow is a paid app, but it's about the closest you can get to "programming" on iOS without a paid developer account. I've read Altucher's words on using a waiter's pad and he says the same thing -- it's for ephemera. The Evernote clipper really shines in how smooth everything works. A native mac app would be a huge boost. It's neat, but only if you live completely inside the Apple ecosystem. Seems like this project doesn't offer much at moment except cool name. Traditional Distorbution packages. And all of that language was meant not to convince you to purchase, but to get you into our world of what we care about and what we're trying to do. I'd imagine others who spend the majority of their time using computers are in the same boat. Feature Request: don't load notes on android, just type and send. Simplenote is a cross-platform Markdown notes application. Over the years I've amassed a copious amount of notes that haven't yet been digitized. It needs to have: I really like Google Photos for it's excellent search capabilities. Well, the notes are stored as HTML text fields in a SQLite database somewhere in /Library. After being a heavy SimpleNote user I finally migrated to Onenote. While using a dark theme the notes background flashes with white when switching between notes. But you then will miss out on the easy binary delta updates using AppImageUpdate, and have an extra step of unpacking, and will need more storage space. Standard format, distributed all over the place [3]. I personally bought Ulysses and use that as my notes taking app for text-only documents, and Apple Notes for short-lived image related notes. For context, I use Apple Notes frequently but not regularly (~100 notes over four years) and suspect my use is not heavy enough to uncover limitations. Instead, I went with implementing it as a Atom package to leverage its community and other text-editing features. The view that often times, technology solves one problem and creates two more in its place. The log tracks the entire edit history of the file, so you can follow the evolution of the document, undo changes, whatever. How does Simplenote fit into your notes workflow? You can easily create text-notes, reminders, to-do list, and more. No fancy formatting. The only thing that is missing from the pro is folders and a text editor, which for basic usage is not needed. Price is quite reasonable for what it offers. But from having asked around, the note taking process spans the entire spectrum from old school big research notebooks, collated three ring binders, instances of mediawiki, evernote, to just a bunch of .txt files scattered throughout their filesystem. It's set up to use Dina, as that's my default font on all my systems. With a lot of notes and lists in Google Keep, I always wonder when Google will kill it like Reader. Add pictures, formatting, etc. It provides you with all of Extended’s benefits for a long time to come, and also helps support Standard Notes in developing a secure application, both technically and financially. Most of my org notes would be ok to edit with nothing more complicated than the labels+tags+checkboxes+tables features. Encrypted, open-source, and extensible. "Thus no need for IV" when your desktop client just pulls a minified blob from somewhere is not particularly reassuring. Standard Notes is free to use on every platform, and comes standard with cross-platform sync and end-to-end privacy. That said just taking notes in a consistent place and in a consistent format gets you 80% of the way there. That said, the majority of my notes still live in nvALT [2], stored as plain text in Dropbox, sync'd via Simplenote to allow me to use their mobile app. Some people like to take their notes digitally. I would write the app myself! There was interesting attempts before... You could easily write a script to export them directly from there. This is a lifesaver if you have to quickly search for a scanned receipt or a screenshot. For this purpose, pen and paper should be good enough in my point of view. But, the disconnect seems to be that you believed our mission, but were set aback by some technical mishaps. Other private, short-lived, growth-oriented companies? I'll bet that .txt files (which is what I currently use to store notes) will outlast .doc. I like that Standard Notes is similar, but adds privacy and the option for self-hosting. On top of that, I find their organization features not very good. Ok, Windows Evernote client is a bit bloated, I agree, but I can still immediately enter new note and immediately search notes via a shortcut. I am not locked into a sync solution and can freely switch from iCloud to Dropbox to to make it future proof. Pen and paper is a commonly used alternative, even amongst the HN crowd, but there's no need to shout down a product that might help people because you take notes differently. Paper worked well for persistence when that was all we had, but we have much better now. This is a poorly thought out and whiny review + cosmetic criticisms of a very solid service. I get the multiplatform thing, but Electron >_<. I fail to see any risk in investing your personal data in this project. One Simplenote feature that others don’t have is a drag-and-drop interface for revisions and note history. Google? I'm not even directly commenting on the product itself. After work on the paid product was released, the "marketing" copy was actually dumbed down, and not made more hyperbolic. I'm trying to get started with Standard Notes but running into trouble. I understand (and to some extent also appreciate) the bold effort to stand out (and the software probably deserve it as well) but please try to stay more conscious of the customers point of view, in the process. No two items are ever encrypted with same key. This is especially true for a notes app that is supposed to last you over many many years and possibly hold thousands of notes at some point. In the meantime, feel free to submit a pull request for any of those items and I'll be happy to merge it in. I'm going to play around with hosting my own server, looks like the current one is here? Standard Notes is a valuable note taking app alternative for individuals concerned with privacy and security matters with a strip down user experience that feels overall more lacking than simple, though, and both design choices and a business model/marketing strategy that generate some concerns from a customer point of view. Zim does have support for embedding images, or links to other files/websites. What's wrong with good old notepad.exe and *.txt files? In any way, my point is, I personally rather pay a price and own the piece of software than renting an app. But this mission is always a work in progress. Yes, there is no wrong side. Package Formats (I hope it is the future) we have appimage, flatpak (Redhat backed), snap (Ubuntu backed). Also a subscription doesn't guarantee that something unexpected will happen to Shinyfrog (the company behind it). One could probably infer a title based on the first line. But their main point is indeed security - compared to say simplenote. No, I won't be able to search them, nor will they sync, nor will they be there when I lose my notebook. The core mission of SN has always been anti-bloat. Evernote for the ultimate digital notebook. I ended up writing my own version of a todo manager (in a language I wanted to learn). Is education the only way around this? Originally published on my blog. The best note-taking apps sync across iPhone, Mac, Windows, Android, and the web. Speaking realistically, investing your personal data in this project is currently a much greater risk than using Evernote. I found Google Keep much too basic. I haven't yet had a need to port it to OS X. I keep my notes in Dropbox for distribution and so I can access them on my phone. Storing a lifetime's worth of typed text is maybe tens or hundreds of megabytes. This is a typical workflow action in other apps: Do a search, multi-select notes among the matches, then apply or de-apply one or more tags to all these notes at once. Simplenote is excellent for basic notetaking but having used Onenote I'm spoiled by it's ability to search within images. Many people will generate that much data as photos in an afternoon. Another useful one is the calculator extension, which can evaluate simple expressions like 3 * 5 =. People who like digital notes might benefit from this system. In my opinion, the function of note taking is comparable to RAM. They update it from time to time. Now that I have 923 notes in HTML files on my hard drive, I can do whatever I want with them. Terminal Velocity is cross platform and open source and awesome. Would be mildly annoying to manually update a few things here and there, but it'd still be far better than nothing. I like Smugmug as far as layout/features and use it too, just wish I could self host it. Follow us on Reddit 480 Followers. This thing - 115 MB. Since it's just plain markdown files, you can save to Dropbox, git, NFS, or anything else really. And attempting to justify it by using a single dictionary definition, isn't logic, it's wordplay. Using it only for notes is probably not doing it justice. The most annoying outcome of this choice is the very different user experience between the desktop and the mobile versions. What we need is something that focuses on durability and not growth. They're just markdown utf-8 textfiles in a folder hierarchy, and I figure vim and vimscript extensions are pretty darn future proof. It isn't open source, but it's excellent software very much in the spirit of nvalt. I hope it's a success! Standard Notes is a valuable note taking app alternative for individuals concerned with privacy and security matters with a strip down user experience that feels overall more lacking than simple, though, and both design choices and a business model/marketing strategy that generate some concerns from a customer point of view. I had a similar thoughts, but didn't want to start from scratch (I include Electron in this definition). Joplin is a free, open source note taking and to-do application, which can handle a large number of notes organised into notebooks. Mac only and as others pointed out not updated too regular but I know people who love it. I like this idea. Visual Studio Code. What would the quality of discussion here be if the threads were filled with obvious comments that provided no new insight? I'll have to poke at it. Thus no need for IV, and makes implementations across platforms simpler. All data is stored on several USB keys that are backed up in several places. However, there is already rudimentary support for the org format outside org, so it may not be that bad. That being said, I don't think it's updated too regularly. In fact Evernote has been advertising handwritten text indexing for quite a while: I thought down-voting was for bad behavior, not disagreement. Come on. Something along these lines is what I'm imagining. In fact I ended up paying for a subscription basically to get rid of the painful red and white UI of the android app and only in second place for the extra features (which I will talk more about later on). Items are encrypted with random keys. I use google keep as a todo/planning app and VSCode with Markdown extension as a note taking app. I've had serious difficulty[1][2][3] with Apple's Notes.app over the past 18 months. Containerized solution with the hope of easier portability and better security by sandboxing type solutions. That kind of mass is an anchor, and when I move I get to make a decision: bring them, or leave them in storage. I have used plenty of them and currently settled for Simplenote for quick notes and Joplin for collection of notes in chapters. I went pro mainly to support the team. That's an excellent question! Slack. EDIT: Oops ... see the comment below as apparently Electron supports code signing via certificates. Keep up the good work guys. I'd suggest waiting until. So much so that I've written some JXA (Javascript for Automation) code to extract all of my notes to self-contained HTML files. 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